THE TIME TRAVELING C-130, SECRETARY MCNAMARA AND UFOs

THE TIME TRAVELING C-130, SECRETARY MCNAMARA AND UFOs

by Bill Knell


Robert Marsh Jr was twenty-eight years old when he came to a seminar I gave in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia. He brought a huge box of papers to give to me and left it with my wife at our information table while he went in to hear me speak. She began to go through it and by the end of the seminar told me that I needed to speak with Robert as soon as possible. At that time I was on a very tight schedule, so I met with him briefly and we exchanged phone numbers. I promised that as soon as I had a day off, I would call after I got a chance to read through the box

A few days later I returned from our lengthy summertime lecture tour and was ready for a break. I went through the box that Robert gave me and was immediately impressed by what I found inside. Many of the papers were obviously government documents that he had obtained through the Freedom Of Information Act or that someone had passed on to him through other means.

There was actually so much information that it was difficult to discover what everything actually meant. What I needed was a primer and that primer was Robert. I called and asked him if we could meet and talk somewhere near his home in Hampton Roads. I thought it best to meet at a neutral location since he and his parents were sharing a house together and I was not sure how much Robert would tell me if they were around. I also knew this would be a long conversation and that explaining all the documents to me would take a few days, so I decided to check into a local hotel between his home and place of work. Robert was a gifted auto mechanic who also had a terrific knowledge of electronics and made extra money on the side repairing everything from washers and dryers to television sets. He also had a degree in engineering from a local college, but never did anything with it.

After Robert showed up at my hotel room we sat down together and went through the box of materials he had provided to me. As we did he told me an amazing story which began with his oldest brother who served in the Air Force during the mid-1960s. He, too, had a real knack for everything electronic and was trained as a specialist in that field. Despite his talent for electronics, Robert’s brother James was all but certain he would be sent to Vietnam. He was shocked after he was assigned to a special project out of Eglin Air Force Base near Valparaiso and Fort Walton Beach, Florida. Despite the designation, he assumed it was some sort of routine electronics gig involving radar or weaponry.

After James arrived at Eglin he immediately discovered that things about his new assignment were anything but routine. First of all, it was not just military people who were involved. There was a large staff of civilian technical, engineering and scientific experts. There was also a large aircraft, a C-130 Hercules that was the centerpiece of all their work. Strangest of all, the project was under the direct command of Robert McNamara, the United States Secretary of Defense who began his job under President Kennedy and continued it under President Johnson after JFK was assassinated.

Once we got on the subject of McNamara, I immediately knew that Robert was the real deal and that the story he was telling me had teeth. That’s because he knew something that most people did not: That Secretary McNamara had some serious mental health issues. I had heard about these from my father and a few of his highly placed Air Force friends. Apart from them, there were not many people who knew about the Secretary’s state of mental health and even fewer who openly talked about it (especially in those days). Today he might be diagnosed as a schizophrenic or a person suffering from serious bipolar issues.

McNamara knew all about the Philadelphia Experiment and in those days of the 1960s before the Montauk Project got going, he wanted to use the “invisibility” technology on aircrafts. During a special meeting which Robert’s brother James attended, along with the others involved in the project, he told the group, “Imagine a fleet of invisible bombers that could strike anywhere and anytime without ever being detected.” He was not referring to what we might think of as today’s stealth technology, but something a lot more bizarre. At that time the technology he had in mind to use would have been too large to be placed on small aircrafts like fighters.

By the time that James joined the project, the equipment was ready for installation on board their C-130. That was part of his job. He had to help install and test the technology, which he barely understood. Typical of the compartmentalized way in which the government handles new technology to keep it secret, everyone knew just what they had to know and precious little more than that. One thing that was obvious was that this new technology was different from anything he had ever seen before. Another thing was that it created strong electromagnetic fields which had some bizarre affects on people and the environment around them.

At some point James was spending most of his time inside the C-130 working on the installation and testing of the technology. The C-130 was housed in a special temporary hangar constructed just for the purpose of that project. Everything the crew and workers needed were in that facility, including sleeping areas and a small mess which fed them all. On one occasion James later told his brother Robert that after what seemed like a particularly long day of work, he decided to go to purchase some personal items from the base store. Once outside he was shocked to find out that it was three days later than he thought it was and that was time he could not account for.

The day finally came when the C-130 was rolled out on to the runway for a flight test. No one was really sure what would happen, because McNamara had forbidden the crew to fully test the technology on board the aircraft prior to its first test flight. No one was really sure why. With the time differences going on and everything else odd about the project, none of the people involved were particularly anxious to hit the ON switch anyway. All everyone knew was that when the technology was turned on, the aircraft was supposed to become radar and and optically invisible.

The crew completed their preflight check and were given permission to take off. Once in flight they were supposed to fly in a circular pattern so that their aircraft would stay within sight of the base where McNamara and other dignitaries observed from the ground. As they did, they were given radio permission to engage the secret technology. Strange things began to happen when they did.. The crew saw no difference from the interior of the C-130, but ground observers noted that the aircraft became translucent, transparent and then vanished from sight. At the same time everyone on board the C-130 became disoriented. When they finally regained some sense of their surroundings, they immediately discovered that they were not alone in the sky.

A strange circular object appeared near their aircraft and seemed to be moving around it in ways which would not be possible for any known device of that time. Observers on the ground saw the object appear just after the secret technology on the C-130 was turned on and it remained there until the aircraft vanished. The object also appeared to vanish at that point. Meanwhile, the object eventually vanished from the sight of those on board the C-130 as well. At that point the crew tried to get back to the business at hand and figure out what was going on. The first thing they noticed after they turned off the secret technology was that they were no longer anywhere near where they should have been.

Apart from the fact that their radio was no longer able to contact anyone, everything on the ground looked different and it was obvious that they were no longer above Eglin. One of the crew members recognized the ground facilities and said that he believed they were in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia. He recommended they land at the Naval Air Station in that area and report what had happened. Everyone else agreed, but when they tried to contact someone and get permission to land they were denied. Ground control did not recognize them and said that their codes and information were wrong and out of date.

With the equipment on board acting strangely even after it was shut down and no one sure how long the aircraft could remain in flight, they decided to land even without permission. Just after they landed the crew began to open the huge rear door of the C-130. As they did, they suddenly found themselves under small arms fire and surrounded by aircraft and people in uniforms they did not recognize. One member of their crew was shot and fell out of the back of the aircraft. The others had no idea what was going on, but closed the rear door and began to take off again.

The C-130 managed to get airborne before too much damage was done to it. To avoid being attacked further, the crew turned on their secret technology and were once again invisible, but also in the presence of the same U.F.O. that appeared near them previously. After everyone on board once again felt disoriented, they turned off the technology and suddenly found themselves back over Eglin AFB in Florida. They had no idea what had happened or how they had been instantaneously transported to the Norfolk area in Virginia. They were just happy to be back in contact with the ground and able to land.

As they tried to land, the C-130 came into contact with the circular UFO near them and began to crash. Just before hitting the ground James was able to jump off the aircraft. Although he broke a number of bones, he survived without any life threatening injuries. All the other crew members perished in the crash. While James recuperated in a special isolated area of the base hospital, he was debriefed for what seemed like days. None of the answers he gave appeared to satisfy his inquisitors. The truth was that James really had no idea what actually happened to him. Any answers he offered were guesses or conjecture at best.

Once James recovered he found himself in an odd situation. He wanted to understand what happened as much as the people who had questioned him in the hospital. It was then that he began to have serious memory lapses just like those who later worked at the Montauk facility. It was almost like he was leading two lives: One that he believed was true and another that was true. He still does not recall much of what really happened during the roughly ten years he remained in the Air Force. Even his memory of everyday things is faulty and suspect at best. It was obvious that the government was using him for further experiments related to the Philadelphia Experiment technology, but there was and remains no way to prove it.

After he finally left the Air Force, it took James years to uncover the truth and it was mind bending. Apparently, the aircraft had traveled through time from Eglin AFB in 1966 to the Hampton Bays area in 1982. A death certificate for the crew member who fell out of the aircraft after being shot dead while the C-130 was on the ground at the Naval Air Station was dated 1982. How could a crewman on a flight which took off from Eglin AFB in 1966 end up dead just a few minutes later while on that mission, hundreds of miles away and in the year 1982? 

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